05/23/10 7:59 PM ET
White Sox get talent as well as give it
By Scott Merkin / MLB.com
John Ely (Dodgers), Clayton Richard (Padres) and Gio Gonzalez (A's) all picked up victories, combining to allow three earned runs over 21 innings, while striking out 14 and walking two. But before fans and pundits alike pine for the return of these young arms to Chicago, remember the old adage of how a team has to give up talent in order to get talent in return.
"Winning or losing a trade, that's why you take a risk," said White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen of analyzing a trade after the fact. "As long as we get the guy we want, that's what I think about it. That's why a lot of general managers, they don't want to make a trade because they don't want to look bad.
"I'm working for the guy that's not afraid to make trades as long as they help this organization and this club, and I like that," Guillen said.
Guillen pointed to a few conversations from last December's Winter Meetings in December in Indianapolis, when he felt general manager Ken Williams was ready to make moves but no one else was in that same aggressive mode. Guillen added how he doesn't pay much attention to players once they leave the White Sox organization, leaving bench coach Joey Cora to update him about such things.
Instead, Guillen focuses on the contributions currently being made by Juan Pierre, who was acquired in the offseason deal sending Ely to the Dodgers, or Jake Peavy, who came over from San Diego last year for a four-hurler package involving Richard. The White Sox have a good track record of giving up the right Minor League talent to make the Major League team stronger.
"Every time we make a trade, I always say, 'I could never have been a general manager because you have to take a chance on what the team wants and the team needs, and ignore feelings,'" Guillen said. "We knew John would be fine and we knew Clayton would be good, but we have a pretty good guy [in return for each trade]."
Ozzie angered by Fish running with big lead
CHICAGO -- White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen was raised under the watch of old-school baseball rules, and on that particular list of rules falls the edict of not stealing a base when leading by seven runs.
Florida's Brett Carroll broke that rule, by Guillen's estimation, in the fourth inning of the Marlins' 13-0 victory on Sunday at U.S. Cellular Field, leaving the White Sox a bit perturbed over more than the final score.
"Of course," said Guillen when asked in his postgame press conference if he was bothered by Carroll's stolen base with Florida leading, 7-0. "This is baseball. You have to respect [the game]. That's just the way we learned how to play the game."
"It's 7-0. It's not a good thing to go out and steal a base," said White Sox starter Freddy Garcia, who was lit up for seven runs on seven hits over 2 1/3 innings. "That's no respect for the other team. So whatever happened, happened. Stealing second up seven runs, I think that's bad baseball."
The White Sox spoke with more than words, as Randy Williams hit Carroll with a pitch in the fifth inning. Carroll also was hit by Scott Linebrink to put him on base in the fourth, after the Marlins had hit three home runs. Florida reliever Dan Meyer hit A.J. Pierzynski in the right elbow with two out in the seventh, leading home-plate umpire Adrian Johnson to warn both benches.
"On that particular play, the umpire had to protect the integrity of the game," Guillen said. "I know it's going to come up, but meanwhile I always hate that, because once you have a warning, you can't do anything about that. The umpires wanted to control the game and not let it get out of hand."
"All I was trying to do is swing the bat and try to get a hit," Pierzynski said. "I don't think he was trying to hit me. He just threw it inside and it got away."
Gaby Sanchez also swiped second in the fourth, but he was running on a 3-2 pitch from Linebrink with runners on first and third and one out. Florida manager Fredi Gonzalez said Carroll was running on his own, while Guillen marveled at why a team would pile on against an offense such as the White Sox struggling to score.
"We had to do something about it, and we did," said Guillen of Carroll getting hit by Williams. "We just told the guys not to play like that. Especially when the team is last in hitting and runs scored in the American League. With a [seven-run] lead, they think we're going to come back next inning?"
Beckham staying put, needs to stay strong
CHICAGO --- A new concern regarding second baseman Gordon Beckham has crept up for White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen, and it didn't directly involve Beckham's .191 average after his 1-for-2 showing in Sunday's 13-0 whitewash at the hands of the Marlins. Guillen likes the way Beckham has been swinging the bat lately but doesn't want him to get discouraged because of having nothing to show from hard-hit outs.
"He's running through bad luck, too," said Guillen. "I told him, 'Don't put your head down when you hit the ball hard.' At least you have good at-bats.
"Everybody here is behind him, his teammates, myself; I think he is swinging the bat pretty good, but he is just not getting hits. He was very bad two weeks ago, very bad. The only way to get better is keep playing."
According to Guillen, Beckham will "keep playing" at the Major League level, with no plans to send down the second baseman for a stint in the Minors.
"Two weeks ago I called him into my office and talked to him about it," Guillen said. "I said, 'As long as you don't lose your confidence and you play the game right, you're here. If we let you lose your confidence and you're not playing the game you should be playing, than you're not playing for us.'
"My job is to make sure to get the best out of the players on the field. Play hard. You can't control base hits, but you can control good at-bats and play hard. As long as you can control that, that's fine with me."
Thornton feels fine as bullpen stays fine
CHICAGO -- Matt Thornton pitched to just one batter on Saturday because manager White Sox Ozzie Guillen didn't want to overuse the left-hander extraordinaire after he didn't work for one week.
"The first time coming out I don't want to overuse, and you don't [usually] see him walk guys and he walked a guy," said Guillen of the unusually quick removal of Thornton, who was replaced by J.J. Putz in the seventh inning after walking left-handed-hitting Chris Coghlan. "It worked out perfect for us to take a look at him and see how he is."
Thornton suffered left triceps soreness during his save in Kansas City on May 15 and had not pitched until Saturday against the Marlins. The bullpen's 2 2/3 innings of yeoman's work in Saturday's Interleague victory extended its scoreless streak to 18 2/3 innings, a run ending on Sunday at 20 1/3 innings. The group also threw 19 1/3 scoreless innings from April 9-16.
Saturday's bullpen showing included Sergio Santos pitching for a second straight day, and the converted infielder with a 0.55 ERA did the job in the higher-pressure eighth-inning role.
"It's just getting more and more experience," Santos said. "Going through all the ups and downs the last three years as a position player helped me out, not letting my highs get too high, lows get too low. Just try to keep an even keel and be prepared every day to throw."
Third to first
Waukegan High School's Jereme Richmond, named Mr. Basketball in Illinois this year, threw out one of the first pitches Sunday. He will attend the University of Illinois in the fall ... White Sox reliever Tony Pena struck out a career-high five in the 13-0 loss to the Marlins. ... First baseman Paul Konerko tied Robin Ventura for fourth place on the White Sox all-time walks list with 668.
Scott Merkin is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.